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	<title>Comments on: Money for Nothing and Your Chicks for Free&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Cahill</title>
		<link>http://www.allthingscahill.com/2009/11/money-for-nothing-and-your-chicks-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Initial upgrade, free...then new license at next major level release...which would be 5.0 - and easily 2 years out.  

That&#039;s plenty of time...I never figured the yearly fee would last for ever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initial upgrade, free&#8230;then new license at next major level release&#8230;which would be 5.0 &#8211; and easily 2 years out.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s plenty of time&#8230;I never figured the yearly fee would last for ever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ManagerJosh</title>
		<link>http://www.allthingscahill.com/2009/11/money-for-nothing-and-your-chicks-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1541</link>
		<dc:creator>ManagerJosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is asking vBulletin Solutions, or Internet Brands to give us a free upgrade. If one takes the time to read the complaints and arguments, it isn&#039;t over &quot;GIMME A FREE UPDATE&quot;, but rather Internet Brands and vBulletin Solutions yanking our original terms of sale and not allowing us to buy our yearly updates as usual.

Our original terms of sale allowed us to buy yearly updates at a rate of 40.00 or 60.00. Now we can&#039;t do that. We&#039;re either stranded at what we have or we have to buy essentially a brand new license at 175.00 instead of a brand new license at 195.00</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is asking vBulletin Solutions, or Internet Brands to give us a free upgrade. If one takes the time to read the complaints and arguments, it isn&#8217;t over &#8220;GIMME A FREE UPDATE&#8221;, but rather Internet Brands and vBulletin Solutions yanking our original terms of sale and not allowing us to buy our yearly updates as usual.</p>
<p>Our original terms of sale allowed us to buy yearly updates at a rate of 40.00 or 60.00. Now we can&#8217;t do that. We&#8217;re either stranded at what we have or we have to buy essentially a brand new license at 175.00 instead of a brand new license at 195.00</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Cahill</title>
		<link>http://www.allthingscahill.com/2009/11/money-for-nothing-and-your-chicks-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1539</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, apples to apples is upgrading the forum only, not the suite...hence free upgrade and no additional license cost until they release 5.0 as you note, about 2 years hence...a more than fair proposition.

It&#039;s just not reasonable to expect them to upgrade software for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, apples to apples is upgrading the forum only, not the suite&#8230;hence free upgrade and no additional license cost until they release 5.0 as you note, about 2 years hence&#8230;a more than fair proposition.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not reasonable to expect them to upgrade software for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Gentle Giant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gentle Giant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a fool would think that spending $250 to upgrade to the suite is good value compared to $40 a year.

This is assuming you have forums &amp; blogs.

For forums only it will cost $175 to upgrade.

If you assume that V4 will be around for 2 years, then the $40 cost has risen to over 200% or over 300% if you had the blogs.

Comparing it to Windows 7 (as you have) - they produce a family pack for $150 - so you can upgrade three computers for the price of slightly more than one - this is a good offer from MS (and of course the product is ready to ship in full, when the money is paid - not in 2/3 months time)

(disclaimer: Not saying you are a fool, just that the true upgrade costs for many users is not being properly highlighted)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a fool would think that spending $250 to upgrade to the suite is good value compared to $40 a year.</p>
<p>This is assuming you have forums &amp; blogs.</p>
<p>For forums only it will cost $175 to upgrade.</p>
<p>If you assume that V4 will be around for 2 years, then the $40 cost has risen to over 200% or over 300% if you had the blogs.</p>
<p>Comparing it to Windows 7 (as you have) &#8211; they produce a family pack for $150 &#8211; so you can upgrade three computers for the price of slightly more than one &#8211; this is a good offer from MS (and of course the product is ready to ship in full, when the money is paid &#8211; not in 2/3 months time)</p>
<p>(disclaimer: Not saying you are a fool, just that the true upgrade costs for many users is not being properly highlighted)</p>
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